Thanks you guys - for the comments on the 30mm ammunition thread. I dunno why this has gotten under my skin - curiosity has always been a big problem for me. So we have definitive answers on the dimensional differences between the 30mm ammo used by the Warthog and the Apache helicopter. Makes sense: the autocannon on the Hog is a can opener but I *think* the one on the Apache might fire explosive rounds as well...?
And what has me wondering is this electronic primer business on the shells. The pernicious but perceptive PeteF plausibly opines:
"Probably a Piezoelectric primer... Then again, who am I to know? I'm just an aging telephone man..."
Hmpffffff. I did a shallow fact finding mission and don't really know how to pursue this inquiry without ending up on JL's domestic terrorist watch list. It would make sense that info on it is sketchy precisely so that hooligans like me don't get ahold of it, HAR HAR HAR!!! Our gubbimint assholes already live in terror thinking that I can violently overthrow the democratically elected liberal Canadian gubbimint and its armed forces - with a .243 single shot rifle! Whadda fuggin country, eh?
Retards. But I digress: the Innernet Of Things has this to say:
How electric primers on 30mm shells work
So obviously a filament of some sort sets off the powder that propels the bullet. I'd read that the Hog does not eject spent cases for fear they'll end up in the rear mounted jet engines. Even I have heard the distinctive "BRRRRRRRRRRTTT!!!" the Hog's cannon makes as it unloads on a target. It literally sounds like a wet fart from a distance because it fires so rapidly. I just marvel at the engineering behind it. To get the filament so hot to set off the powder? The filament must be consumed in the firing process because the primers are not reloadable. And all that has to occur literally in microseconds given the firing rate! I'd love to see a detailed view or schmeatics of the apparatus involved.
Just interesting trivia to keep in mind next time we are reloading for apes like WL and Tiny that go offhand with such weapons at the rod and gun club, I suppose.
Thanks again for all the info, fellas.
*facepalm*
ReplyDeleteGood lord, Filthie. Why would you think looking up information on how a round for an autocannon, which you have no means of obtaining (unless you live in Afghanistan, apparently), would put you on a watchlist? It is open source information.
You boomers sure are a paranoid bunch.
GASP!
DeleteWhy you rotten little SWINE! Y’know what Tiny called me awhile back? A ‘boomerfag’!!! 🤬🤬🤬
You little bastards keep running your mouths like that - and I’ll give ya BOTH some good old fashioned corporeal punishMINT.
Boomerfag!?!? I’m STILL mad about it!🤬
Barrett has a 30x42mm rifle now.
ReplyDeletehttps://armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/barretts-30mm-squad-support-rifle-offers-fast-precision-strikes-against-drones-and-fortified-targets
I had read the reason the hog retained the cases was to help maintain the aircraft's load balance.
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Late to the Party Glen! Apologies! Been dealing with the psycho here (she's revealed herself as a full on narcissist stalker which I never fully realized... sheesh) But I haven't much experience w/the 30x113mm M230 weapons system. That's be the Apache's weapon. The best and closest approximation is to look at the electric 'matches' that professional firework companies use to detonate their stuff... except on steroids so to speak...
ReplyDeleteThe one I worked with was the M242 Bushmaster in 25x137mm on the Bradley, which is an entirely different animal. They DID come up with a BIGGER version called the Mk44 which used the 30x113mm round, but that was fielded after my time doing weapons for the DotMil.
Hope that helps!
Oh... and by the way
Yer still a BoomerFag!!! :D:D:D:D