For the last 15~20 years I have always been “Christianity-adjacent”. One of the reasons for that was the great women and the great families that go with it. They have their problems like everyone else, but they have a moral foundation to work from when they go about piecing feuds n’ things back together. By contrast, my progressive liberal family had … nothing? The TV, maybe? Funnily enough though we were a strong 3 generation extended family since forever. It drove me fuggin nuts half the time because my in-laws were always up in my chit and stirring pots but for the most part … I could take it. I loved my wife and daughter, they loved the in-laws so I coped by doing lots of camping and fishing, keeping my nose in a glass and my mouth shut. I avoided them as much as civilly possible.
The culture wars were too much for us though. We disagreed on everything, we cancelled each other and that was that for that. Things went poorly for them after that as they had further estrangements and divorces of their own among themselves.
Right now I have several friends in the midst of similar catastrophic family failures… all at once. It’s the damnedest thing, the timing of it? But regardless… I guess my question is if such a way of life could ever be re-established? In the meme above it’s just as easy as flipping a switch: everyone just decides to stick together. I snort with derision - I can just imagine trying to re-form family bonds with my former woke family. I’m a bad person… so bad they can’t even talk to me in some cases because doing so will curdle their milk. I’m no different or any better on my side… I’m glad those assholes are having their problems away from me. The last thing I want are dramatics, derelicts and degenerates under the same roof with me. One good thing about my family is that when it broke… it broke clean.
Any of you guys been through the family collapse wringer? Could you establish a new extended family or assemble enough like minded people to form a viable community? I know I couldn’t with my family…
"like minded". You hit the nail on the head right there.
ReplyDeleteBeen there done that. My father was the problem in our family. I was the best when he needed money, terrible son to everybody else. Got real tired of it after trying to get along for years of it. Last 6 yrs. He was alive I just ignored him. I have no idea who supported him then. Maybe he had more money than I knew about. Sister called, he was dying. I ignored it. Didn't go to the funeral. Felt hypocritical to act like I cared. Took Mom in for her last years. Don't know how she put up with it. Sister stole the rest of money Mom thought was in the bank. Haven't talked to her ever since. Including Mom's funeral. Mom thought that it was her grandkids inheritance. Even my sister's kids got ripped off. Spend my days now caring for my invalid wife. I get by. One by one my old friends pass on. I will too. So it is.
ReplyDeleteI think that’s in the cards for me too… and I’m just peachy with it…
DeleteNot possible in my existing family, completely libtards and would be horrified that less government may be in their lives. My children getting married and sticking around that's the goal.
ReplyDeleteI've been very fortunate with my adopted family. But I've watched others go through the same troubles and splits you describe.
ReplyDeleteI'm blaming the whole Frankfurt/Edward Bernays, social engineering, Jooo, Commie, Satanic, take down of White, Western, Christian, civilization.
That may seem simplistic, but I'm old, don't have the desire to get into the millions of micro and mini co-operations supporting that Program.
At this point, I think, (((They))) have succeeded in rotting the foundations, infrastructure, institutions, principalities, and social fabric, enough that inertia is going to guide us into whichever dystopian ending we do/don't deserve.
Small to medium groups may do OK for awhile, but if North America is invaded by the jealous, resentful, hungry, hoards from the south/overseas, it will get even worse.
In ANY event, if (((They))), or ANYBODY, kills the power grid, there will be a 90% die/kill off in the 1st year.
Hmmm, sounds exactly like I just crapped in yer comments Glen, sorry about letting my cynical pessimism out, I must not be enjoying my coffee enough...or something.
No sweat, man. I share most of your opinions. People get mad at me for my takes on jewish/woke perfidy… but I make no excuses for myself in it. I watched the evil influences setting up in my family and did nothing about it… which was just an open invitation for more. A lot of the crap on our plates is there because we let them put it there. I should have put a stop to it much sooner but…shoulda, coulda, woulda is a fruitless game to play.
DeleteSeems like I see a lot of guys in my boat - where the old lady smokes a bearing and files for divorce after 20-30 years. They really have no clue the collateral damage their drama causes. My kids are different now. After a few years of her badgering them, they've come to realize it wasn't me, it was her. And they are stuck with her now. I've moved on.
ReplyDeleteThink about it - I'll die before herself, for sure. The bulk of my 'estate' will probably go to my new woman. Not herself, not the kids, effectively wiping out what a wife would've been able to retire on, and the kids get a boost.
We've all hardened.
It seemed like they picked sides. Probably the wrong one. But the damage is done. These days, I don't make plans with them - they usually flake (they are millenials). I don't invite myself. And I won't accept the consolation prize. This is where they leave me out of the holidays, and I'm invited to desert, or out to dinner. I'm invited or not.
I prefer to spend my time around friends.
I had a busy with a wife who was unpleasant, he was happier before the marriage, now they have kids. I knew things were bad for him but one day i learned how bad. He posted an article to linkedin about some major project he did at work. His bosses commented about it, lots of other people did as well. Then his wife commented that if he spend half as much effort on satisfying her sexually as he did on that project she wouldn't have to hit him as often. A few years later during covid he mentioned to me how he had to take a second job to afford his wifes alcohol consumption budget
ReplyDeleteThen in 2022 i was in the city at a craft store picking up stuff for one of the kids when i hear someone screaming in the store and making a scene. Turned out it was his wife also shopping there. She saw me and complained that an unvaxxed person was in the store. She was screaming at the manager to kick me out. I no longer talk to him as she banned him from talking to ne after what i referred to ger as to the store manager.
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Ughhh… the female hysteria. Where is that shit coming from, E? I swear to God - sure, we have some chicken heads out at the little chapel out in the country… but even the spiniest ones are ten times more sane than these shitlibbed femcnut retards these days… I’m becoming more convinced this is a clinical thing much more than a social one…
DeleteIf you want a strong family, or even a strong community, everybody needs to get off of social media and TV.
ReplyDeleteShort answer is times have changed and there is nothing to put back together. In trying to answer your question, I went back in my mind about 45 years to my aunt libby, who every Christmas invited the extended family together at her house. We had
ReplyDelete60 to 80 relations, that would pot luck together. It was the thing of childhood memories, throwing oneself on the fur coats on the bed in the guest room. It was understood that it was a family obligation. Every year I guess there was some grumbling amongst the adults that they didn't like the obligation. Finally, one year aunt libby said, if you don't want to come to the family reunion, you don't have to come. Absolutely no one showed up that year. I remember my father and uncle talking about it over the table and being horrified and saddened. My aunt was heartbroken and never hosted another get together, and none of the other relatives ever picked up the get together. I got to watch selfishness, greed and mental illness chew away at the edges of the family in the years that followed until now there's no one left a call, even if I wanted to. I know some families today that are pretty intact but for mine, the disintegration goes way back.
Yep. Same thing in my family too. Times have seriously changed…
DeleteHell no. I have given up on people. One friend I have had for 43 years. That's it.
ReplyDeleteThey're *dead* jim, they're all dead!
ReplyDeleteThe GI Bill and the Interstate Highway system did a LOT to destroy the nuclear and extended family following WW2.
ReplyDeleteRussell Kirk liked to refer to cars as mechanical Jacobins. He had a point.
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