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How do you enforce it?
It’s popular to throw the Catholics under the bus these days but I will not. I know too many of them that are good people. And it always comes up, that rot with the pedophile priests. People don’t understand the realities of pedophilia.
Most pedophiles are queers. (The numbers I saw were on the order of about 2/3 of them are gay). To indulge their perversion they have to go where the hunting is good. They also have very, very tight communities and they cover for each other. People like to blame the Catholic faith for the scandals but in reality … they should be blaming the faggots themselves and the gay community that protects and enables them. The exact same thing happened with the Boy Scouts, minor hockey and minor baseball and is doubtlessly going strong in other organizations we don’t even know about. These predators are very, very good at covering their tracks. My head is still spinning after watching the Epstein list “disappear”. Chances are there are more fuggin queers and faggots running the Washington state family and social services than there are in the entire Catholic Church! I wouldn’t tell those degenerate statist fucks anything either! Ruling or no ruling. I personally will render unto Caesar on most things… but I will never bow down to him. The toads on Blab get roasted for saying it by the Usual Suspects…but Christ IS king.
So… how does a Catholic man of God deal with this? The Bible is not a suicide pact. Those men are sworn to serve and protect their communities. I strongly suspect that there are ways to deal with such situations and that there are almost certainly “back channels” and inside baseball games that can resolve and deal with situations like this? The church has been around for a long time, and there is nothing new under the sun.
The boy scouts downfall was the decision to allow gays as troop leaders, yes they did it because a lawsuit forced them too. If you look at it that was when the pedos flooded in.
ReplyDeleteSame with the church, they let gay men be priests and that led to the abuse scandal.
The bible is clear on what should happen to a pedo, I recommend the Mathew 18 method.
Exile1981
Would you be bent out of shape if the American Bar Association told attorneys that they would be disbarred if they divulged information they obtained via counsel-client privilege to convict their clients? If attorneys ratted on their clients, it would have a very chilling effect on the other attorneys and they would not be able to do their jobs.
ReplyDeleteIf, however, an attorney obtains information that does not involve their clients in any way and obtains it from non-privileged sources, they are liable to being an accessory to the crime(s) if they don't feed it up the food-chain...being agents-of-the-court and all that.
So if one priest confesses that he diddles underage people to another priest, that priest cannot act on that information. If, however, a parent or teacher or minor reports the crime to a priest, he has a legal obligation to act on that information, that is, a duty-to-report.
Really, no different than a lawyer or a doctor.
There is an obvious solution to this issue for men of honor, and the japanese had it down to science. You do what needs to be done to retain your honor. You take one for the team. You take the disbar/excommunication. You do what you must do to preserve your honor.
DeleteHow do they handle it now Joe? What happens if Tony Soprano whacks a few mooks and goes in and confesses? What is the priest obligated to do?
DeleteCatholic priests aren’t the problem. When the scandal broke, they cleaned house, and still do. I used to teach the safe environment training at my parish, and took some time to look over the stats, all of which can be found online. There was literally 10x the sexual abuse cases in the school district than of all the priests country wide.
ReplyDeleteI asked a Franciscan priest once about this and he said they don’t have a pedo problem, they had a gay problem. For a long time the seminaries were rife with homos. That’s what was the point of the book ‘Goodbye Good Men’.
I can tell you, they cleaned house around here. And if they get a sniff that a priest is looking at porn, even, he gets vaporized as a priest. It’s been zero tolerance for a couple decades.
That’s what I’d heard, H. But given the antics of that last pope…I was beginning to wonder if that stuff would re-establish itself again?
DeleteNow the anti Christian crowd will send in people to lie and confess to a crime that they did not do to see if the Priest reports it.
ReplyDeleteWithin the Catholic Church the gays are known as the "Velvet Mafia" and they are extremely powerful.
ReplyDeleteTo your point isn't it funny that they are also the ones that covered up all of the pedo scandals ?
Part of the reason that I left the Catholic Church (besides my divorce) is that I have a serious issue with a priest having Mass on Sunday when the night before he was in a gay bath house. Half the priests today are flaming homos..... no thanks.
I am not an advocate for the Catholic Church either. But…when gubbimint starts infringing on religion, I have VERY big problems with that. Especially when that govt is infested with queers and pedos too…
DeleteThe Catholic Church's handling of this situation, among many others, has forced me to step aside of those church doors. Kiddie-diddling priests, an EXTREME pro-illegal immigration stance, and the idol worship of Mary... I could go on for a while here. Suffice it to say, I'm Catholic. I wish my church still was...
ReplyDeleteWe have a few ex-Catholics in our little chapel out in the country, Pete. A few of them are intensely bitter adversaries of their former churches too. I get uncomfortable talking with them because they get so angry about it. What do you make of the new pope?
DeleteNot quite. A priest who violates the seal of the confessional automatically incurs the penalty of excommunication. It will not be hard to enforce - the government cannot keep it secret (for long). The question is will bishops actually have the spine to comply with cannon law.
ReplyDelete1 Timothy 4:1-3
ReplyDeleteNow the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; [2] Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; [3] Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Matthew 13:31-33
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: [32] Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof. [33] Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
Leaven is always a negative symbol in the Bible. Birds are also mentioned in the parables. And what woman features negatively in the revelation to John? Notice the hiding of the leavven, and the fine meal she spoiled with it. The papist cult is not a church, and the members are not Christians.
Start perp-walking monsignors, bishops, and archbishops into prison as accessories after the fact, and let them minister to the butt burglars in prison in person, and this problem goes away in a NY Minute.
ReplyDeleteOr the pedo enablers do.
Either way, it's a win.
Your religion does not trump the law (and common sense). Period. If you think otherwise you might be a Muslim.
ReplyDeleteThink carefully before you go down that (sharia) road.
It absolutely does. There are many laws that deserve to be broken.
DeleteWhen the seal of Confession is broken, the priest is automatically excommunicated, and this has been the rule for a LONG time.
Procuring an abortion (or helping to procure one) carries the same penalty. For good reasons.
We simply need to start executing pedos publicly (I prefer hanging), and it doesn't matter if said pedo is clergy or laity. That will sort things out very quickly. I seem to recall reading a book, and the protagonist of the book said something about harming children, millstones, and the sea... If only I could remember the title....