I was just little kid when the divorce craze kicked off in the early 70s. Back then it was generally automatically assumed that in a divorce, it was all the huband’s fault. He went to the poor house, the exwife went to the bank. The kids in such families were pitied and said to have come from “broken homes”. The horror stories speak for themselves. The floodgates opened and women started divorcing their men for cash and prizes and today we have the dysfunctional society to show for it.
China, of all places, is moving to put an end to the nonsense.
The feminists are melting down and I don’t get it. To me it’s fair…but I’m a guy, so whadda I know?
That 70s style was a pendulum swing from the prior divorce settlements. ie - he could trade in on a younger model and she got nuthin, after years of having and raising a family. Both were extremes. The Chinese approach seems more middle ground.
ReplyDeleteWell I think you're absolutely right Steve. If we are to accept that women are responsible enough to have agency - then it would make sense to dispense with old divorce law.
DeleteThe hell of it is that at least 50% of women do not have the maturity or emotional stability required for a successful marriage... and I suspect that at least 20% of the men out there don't either. (I am pulling those numbers out of my arse, so take them with some suspicion).
I get the pendulum thing but hell's bells - the proper thing to do IS split everything 50/50 and any premarital assets go to the partner that paid for them. The late Z Man speculated that most liberal social policies and movements revolve around the idea of revenge... and that is what the horrible divorce laws of the 70s were all about.
"No one gets married thinking they will get a divorce."
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Jfc...obviously this woman lawyer who wrote this has never talked to a marine or GI who served in Korea or Okinawa, or served anywhere else overseas, and got married over there.
Well - to be fair, JL... you squaddies go to foreign places, sleep in the mud, eat snakes, and fuck the local strippers and whores! HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!! :) In such a situation I'd been smart and emulated the locals by screwing the orangutans, water buffalo and available flora and fauna. In the sandbox I would have made use of the local goats and camels. I really should have joined the forces - I think we can both agree that I would have made a good squaddie and a worthy officer...
DeleteBut yeah -
No, no...what I mean is, there are shit tons of local women in these places who deliberately aim to get hitched with a serviceman, all so they can get their 'green card' and then divorce the poor bastard once they return stateside. Happens all the time. I know of a few guys in the CAF who married local Kraut women when we were stationed in Lahr years ago and something similar happened to them.
DeleteThey ABSOLUTELY get married with intemt to get a divorce.
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ReplyDeleteIf it makes the feminists squeal I must support it!
They are another problem that will go away when the collapse is upon us...
DeleteThe Chinese have taken a good first step. Give this a few years to let people get used to it, then take the necessary second step: Women get nothing at all in a divorce except what they brought to the marriage with them. Not even the children.
ReplyDeleteI would agree with that McC - but only in the case of the obvious chicken-headed gold diggers and connivers. But in the case of real women being wronged by legitimate shit heads or abusers... I'd be prone to showing mercy. The intent is justice, after all... and divorce law is only one part of the body of family law that needs to be scrapped and overhauled from the ground up...
DeleteI see your point. If the woman can show real cause (like multiple broken bones, not the fake, made-up shit divorce lawyers advise all women to claim these days), she might be eligible to get up to half. And women claiming fake shit that can't be proven (as appears to happen in about 90% of cases) leads to a stint in the pokey for perjury. She needs to provide proof of her claims or go to jail for running her mouth.
Delete" . . . real women being wronged by legitimate shit heads or abusers . . ."
Delete0.0001% of actual divorces. The rest are because SHE thinks SHE can "Do BETTER than this loser" thanks to TikTaK & Tw@tter, and constant egging-on by her miserable, jealous "frien-emies"..
This ^ right here. Anon is 100% on the money.
DeleteGenuinely abused women (and men too) often stay with their abusers. It's often argued that they do this because they believe 'they're gonna change' or 'things will get better', which is true to an extent, but the real reason is that these people are so demoralized and beaten down that they simply don't have the self-confidence to stand up and walk out the door. They prefer the devil they know to the devil they don't.
Not only do I see this quite often at work with some domestic abuse cases (many domestics I deal with are actually two idiots who shouldn't be together aggravating each other until one of them snaps), but I grew up watching this with my own parents for well over 20 years. As a kid, I grew up watching that son of a bitch father of mine do things to my mother that I have rarely seen replicated elsewhere throughout a lengthy law enforcement career. It's actually one of the reasons I got into policework in the first place. Yet, in all that time, my mother still stayed with him. He had her so broken, she still devoted herself to him, no matter what he did to her, right up until HE grew bored with it all and walked out the door, leaving her in a lurch. Sadly, she died not long ago with that evil repugnant asshole still living rent free in her head, despite everyone urging her to forget him and move on.
The truth is, more often than not, if a woman (or man) is leaving the relationship like that, it's because they're bored with what they have and think they can get a better deal somewhere else.
The figure I heard was 80% of rape and abuse accusations are false and either get “retracted” (I’d call that perjury) or disproven in family courts. My thinking is if you can trash 80% of those accusations right off the top…how many of the remaining 20% are bogus too? But as JL notes…it DOES happen and when it does, it has to be taken seriously.
DeleteJL was your Dad having problems with booze or drugs? My experience is that in real abusive situation… the abuser has serious problems of his own. Healthy men generally don’t attack women…
@Filthie: No, 'dear old dad' was neither a druggie nor an alcoholic. He was one of those people, found amongst men and women alike, who believed he should be allowed to do whatever he wanted to whoever he wanted whenever he wanted, all without consequence. I believe we call these people 'sociopaths' and they seem to be more common as time careens on.
DeleteYeah....he was a real piece of work. Anyway...
My wife and I have been married for 29 + years. My first, her second. Hubbie #1 took her to the cleaners for the property they purchased together but she got the trailer they lived in. So when we decided to get hitched, we chose the same route the Chinese chose. What we owned prior to our marriage we keep if we split. We took it farther. Our household bills we share. House insurance - kids expenses are split too. Our personal toys are ours to keep - whoever purchased it keeps it. We each pay our vehicle insurances and vehicle upkeep.
ReplyDeleteIts save a lot of fighting over the years. When we die, the other inherits it or goes directly to our two children. So far - it works.
Our deal was the wife paid all the bills, my money went in the bank. We are both savers by nature but if I wanted toys, or she wanted to travel we just did it and didn’t even quibble about it.
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