Can the church recover now?
I don’t get into denominational feuds and have no real understanding of Catholicism or their internal politics… but I am hearing a lot of really good people saying a lot of very, very bad things about the stuff going on in the Vatican. The kind of stuff that starts at the very top and rolls downhill.
I dunno how to judge these doings either? At what point do you stand up and walk out? “Shake the dust off your sandals” so to speak? I was astonished by Trump when shortly after his election…he went to that church with his entourage and that creepy lesbian pastor came out and scolded him. Blumpf is a better man than I am - I’d have stood up, looked that cunned stunt in the eye, and then left! Whatever that fuggin thing in the pulpit was… it was not called there by God. But I digress - how offensive does a church have to get before you walk away?
The Church lost my support and — more importantly — my money when Francis started his shenanigans. Pope Benedict XVI retirement was a shocker, especially when info started leaking out about the true background construct forcing him out.
ReplyDeleteHomosexuality runs rampant in the Church and I can only pray it can find the way back to God.
The modern Catholic Church under Dead Pope, may he heat loss, freeze in Hell, is another Satanic synagogue.
ReplyDeleteWill it recover? I would bet not. It's MUCH more likely Chuck E Cheese will turn into a fine Italian restaurant.
The thing with Bergoglio ie Pope Francis was that he was a far Lefty and made many many statements that flew in the face of Catholic teachings and were heretical. A few examples in 2013 named Man of the Year by The Advocate an LGBTQ magazine-- gee I wonder why ? He loved every Lefty leader like the ones in Cuba and Venezuala and hated Trump. In short he was a Pope who appeared to be a Social Justice Warrior more than a Catholic or even a Christian.
ReplyDeleteHe's answering for his actions now by the Almighty and I wouldn't want to be in HIS shoes.
All I can say Glen, is that "I'm Catholic. I wish my church still was..." That's about how I feel about "pope" Francis... The church's stance on illegal immigration and its "reaching out" to Sodomites forced me to step away several years ago. And that's something, coming from a longtime church choir member and cantor. ...The Catholic church, like some species, is evolving into extinction...
ReplyDeletegood riddance to bad rubbish. it has been to long in coming. the church should stay out of politics and concern its self with God and the gospels or lose its parishioners.
ReplyDeletei hope they chose better this time.
My experience is that church elders will argue over just about anything. I always favored a non-denominational Christian church with instructional sermons for the adult believer, and if the church had a choir that was a good thing. Being non-denominational, the church didn't have to report to some kind of central office about finances, sermons, whatever. The elders ran the show, the pastor answered the phone in the middle of the night, and everyone was happy.
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The Catholics are the worst of the lot. They have ranks and various official factions along with unofficial factions, and the sky pilots can pretty much get away with anything. One man, a few years older than I am, walked in to the office and caught his priest with a nun in flagrante delicto. When he told his father about it, he caught a beating. Then there's the ongoing abuse scandals. You can check with Peter Grant about those, but I have no interest in digging anything up. I'd never be a Catholic, for the scandals and the belief system. I don't believe the way they do.
My old church hit the skids about the time I left, but they're on the road to recovery. They've got a new pastor, and I gather he's good at it. Preaching and such. So my thought is that if the sermon is not Biblical, and future sermons continue along that line, it's time to move along. Or have a talk with two or three church elders you trust, then make your mind up. I reject non-biblical sermons.
Church scandals can happen. Rumors and such get started, but if the sermons and Sunday school teaching is solid, I'd stay.
Okay, then. Time for an early dinner.
The scandals will always happen. The way to handle them is to police them and punish them. To this day I am puzzled as to how their churches fell, really.
DeleteWe've had a few aborted raids on our church by the Usual Suspects - from the rainbow or pervert crowds... and they are so easily rebuffed. It was always through the women too... we get the odd carpet muncher with the idea of introducing wokeness and their social agenda into the church... and they are essentially ignored and ostricized - albeit very politely - but very firmly too.
Our Elders struggle too. One has major TDS, another is a die hard "judeo-Christian" ... but for the most part they keep most of that shite to themselves and only make very passing comments on current affairs and politics - and only when those are firmly at odds with the faith and the bible. But otherwise they walk the Christian walk.
My attitude is if they piss me off and start talking nonsense - I will just walk out and return when they start talking sense.
Catholocism is a cult. Run by Jesuit homosexuals that don't believe in the teachings of Jesus. It's all about the money.
ReplyDeleteIf you're a Catholic, you've been duped out of your hard earned money for centuries to support this. Mea Culpa assholes.
"My fault assholes?" I think you mean Culpa tua assholes - your fault.
DeleteI dunno DMM. Catholics have done a lot of good things too. Back when Alberta was a frontier they came out and did missionary work among the natives and tried to help them with residential schools, churches and programs when no one else would.
DeleteToday every second liberal and red nigger runs around saying they tried to genocide the entire first nations race - without a body or fact to back them up.
If I had to critique them it would be to say that they have a huge problem with their women, queers and liberals. They can either clean up their act from the top, or their believers will do it from the bottom...but either way a reckoning or a reformation is coming for them.
I once held the office of Deacon in the Presbyterian Church. I walked away when the Presbyterian Senate decided it would be "OK" for Presbyterian Ministers to officiate at same-sex "union" ceremonies (marriages).
ReplyDeleteFrancis' problem was that perception is reality, as well as most people, even Catholics, don't understand Catholicism. The pope is only considered 'infallible' on doctrine. He can have his own opinions all day long. But - when you spout off your thoughts on homos, people mistake that for a pronouncement on doctrine. To his credit, when pressed, he fell back on doctrine. Although he was called out by bishops officially, and to the best of my knowledge never officially answered. He's probably lost more members than any pope in history with this silliness.
ReplyDeleteI am a practicing Catholic and am very unhappy with how the Catholic Church was becoming embroiled in the allow unrestricted immigration to flourish. And remain silent on abortion, even though the practice is supposed to be a hard NO. I guess the Church is deciding not to rock the boat.
ReplyDeleteDing Dong the faggots dead...
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