Were you ever spanked as a child AND do you think that spanking is ok?
If yer ever wondering why the kids are so messed up…maybe this is a clue?
No, spanking ISN’T okay. In fact, it’s a good indicator that something is seriously wrong - and needs to be corrected by whatever means necessary. I strongly suspect this came from some liberal shit rag or women’s publication.
Single mothers that don’t spank their kids are the worst. I’d keep my distance from them and their spawn and would urge you to do the same.
I was spanked and i turned out fine. Taught me boundaries as a child.
ReplyDeleteExile1981
We all were, back in the day.
DeleteI think you shat the bed in your commentary.
ReplyDelete"No, spanking ISN’T okay. In fact, it’s a good indicator that something is seriously wrong - and needs to be corrected by whatever means necessary."
This is probably the opposite of what you meant to say.
Nope. I don’t think spanking is okay - but I see the need for it. Kids will push their boundaries right to the breaking point - it’s how they learn. It’s one thing when the kid or the dawg doesn’t get the message you are sending them…but quite another when they are contemptuously ignoring it.
DeleteSpank now or pay later.
ReplyDeleteOne time working retail, small men's boutique shoe store. Father and young son browsing. Boy kept picking up displays and putting them down anywhere but where he got them. After about the 5th item I asked him not to as I would have to straighten everything up.
ReplyDeleteWell, father gets all pissy, calls me names and says he's never coming back (me: good!). I look up and at the front door is his father glaring at me. (me: well I know where it came from. 3 generations ruined.)
Spanking the child wouldn't be sufficient. Whipping the father and grandfather for the child's misbehavior would have to be a start with frequent repetitions to do any good. If at all.
So, yes;yes.
Yes, and yes. There's a point in a child's life when all they understand is pain and pleasure. Do something right, they get rewarded. Do something wrong, they get whupped. Not much different than a dog. I spanked my kids when they were small. They got the idea early on. I don't think I smacked any of them more than a couple of times. The hierarchy got established, and spanking became unnecessary. Anyone who thinks it's not OK to spank your kids either doesn't have kids, or does have kids that are or have grown up into something truly HORRIBLE.
ReplyDeleteI was in the supermarket one time when one of the young 'uns got outa line. I smacked him in the posterior good and proper. Along comes this Karen, who starts going off on me for smacking my child. I told her that unless she was ready to take the kid home and raise him 'till maturity, that she should just mind her own damned business. After getting a round of applause from the rest of the onlookers, she slinked back off down aisle 5... the cat food aisle...
It’s always the women, Pete. And that’s the only thing that will shut those stupid bitches up too.
DeleteMy father’s sheer force of being didn’t need physical force to make a point I tried all my life to lead by example and respect of those who I was responsible for
ReplyDeleteYes and yes
ReplyDeleteProverbs 13:24
Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.
Sure I was spanked, but not very often. For one thing I really did try and help my dear mother out, and my father was hard on me. Between public school and my father, the real miracle is that I didn't load up a shotgun and get some payback.
ReplyDeleteIt isn't the lack of spanking, it's the lack of discipline, correction, and punishment. When you hit someone you can't be sure you're teaching them, but when you don't set boundaries that mean something, you're teaching the little hellion that he or she can do whatever amuses them. Somewhere in the middle of all this mess you'll produce a sort-of-civilized law abiding citizen. All that said, read the biography of our Vice President, JD Vance. He didn't have a kind and gentle upbringing, and he's now the VP and likely to be our next President.
I dunno Jack. With my daughter the scoldings, the time outs, the groundings and loss of privileges just didn’t work. Her school work was terrible, she was mouthing off at the adults, and everyone was complaining about but they all agreed that ya can’t spank kids.
DeleteI got fed up with it one day, got out the wooden spoon and gave that little bugger a tanning. Never had to do it again after that because she took me seriously after that.
Exactly. Once in her entire lifetime, and once was enough. That's the sort of punishment kids should be getting at home, and many aren't. Now school was much different.
DeleteI attended public school, and a few of those teachers belonged in prison. About half of them couldn't hold down a job in the private sector, and so became school teachers. The other half did so for completely different reasons and the difference showed. Back in those days, you could get paddled for anything, including some teacher's personal dislike of you. Elementary teachers were the worst of the lot. I had one SOB that liked to employ the dope slap and the ear grab, and did so with a great deal of enjoyment. He also had a large paddle that he named 'Matilda' that he enjoyed using, and he was a proponent of verbal abuse, including childish insults. I always wondered what I'd do if I ever ran into him as an adult, then someone pointed out that if I ever did, he wouldn't be the same man I knew 'way back when.
What I learned from all that was because he occupied a position of authority, and because he was three times my size, he could do this to me. Fuck him. I hope he lived a long life and died in an old folks' home.
Yes, and Yes. And boy, there were many times I deserved it. And like any training (look up most dog potty training books), the spanking needs to be more bark than bite, it needs to be almost immediate, and it needs to be consistent. My wife got beatings, not spankings, and could not separate the two in her mind. So she was solidly against spankings. Made life hell while raising kids. Now she's all like "we should have beat them more when they were little". And I'm like "nope, you don't beat kids, you spank them. There's a difference". And also "Goddam I told you so" but that part is very much under my breathe, while facing away, two rooms away.
ReplyDeleteYup. You don’t need to leave marks to leave an impression.
DeleteGreat point, Don. There is a difference between beatings and spankings. Dad was 6 foot 7 and 350 pounds and sure as shooting never gave any thought to the difference. Really screwed up our relationship.
DeleteYes, yes. My folks were born in 1913 and 1914. They were in their late 30's when they adopted me right out of the chute. Adults during the depression. Each married and divorced with 5 grown kids between them when they got together in WWll. Dad was a machinist, mom was a Rosie the riveter. They knew everything I was gonna do 20 years early. They made sure I knew the rules, there were warnings, groundings, and when needed, spankings. Never got beaten, never spanked in the heat of the moment. Heat of the moment got me sent to my room to await the spanking (psych warfare).
DeleteI'm a very lucky/fortunate man. The breakdown in discipline from parents along with leftist (Satanic) indoctrination is the main reason for the decline of the West.
Never spanked by kids. They usually succumbed to reason and logic: "I've had time to think about it, and I decided I want you to have , but now I can't give it to you, because you threw a fit, and it would be immoral to teach you to do that."
ReplyDeleteYMMV - Some kids are bombastic and violent by nature with poor impulse control. Influencing them with reason and logic is a dicey endevour. They respond better to more pavlovian methods.
Violence should be avoided... but avoiding it in the short term, can increase it in the long term. The best way to avoid violence is to be so good at it that no one wants to go there.