I was at a house looking at a carpentry job and saw one of these , complete like your picture hanging on the wall! He said his dad liked collecting.first time I’ve ever seen one in person
I would LOVE to handle one, Mr. T. I think they originally came in 9mm and some oddball bottle necked calibre?
Off topic but sorta related ... I was hellbent on one day owning a Sharps rifle. I loved the lines, the legends and mystique, and the day I saw one - I was going to buy it. Even the repros were tough to get back in the day.
One day I finally laid hands on one... and HATED it. It didn't fit me at all, hung in my hands like a piece of turd and the balance was just all wrong for me. I ended up buying a Rem Rolling Block and never looked back.
I kinda think it is the same with these pistols, maybe? The lines and legends make for a sweet looking period piece... but the balance and ergonomics on it look iffy to me.
But who knows? Winston Churchill, who often found himself deep in the brown stuff as a military man early in his career - swore by them...
The broom handle needs the stock/holster attached to properly balance. A family member had a artillery Luger bring back with stock and holster. It had great handling and was quite accurate.
I've handled them, they SUCK, until you put a non holster (board) stock on it. Then, it's ALL THAT and a bag of chips. Having a 7 or 8" barrel would certainly help performance a bit. The Luger and the broom handle both started life as 7.65 Parabellum.
There is something weird about this pic. It appears to be a model 712 "Schnellfeuer", which was select fire, however, there are a few things wrong. The frame is missing all of the machining work that is typical of all broomhandle Mausers. If this was a real 712 it would have a 20rd. detachable magazine, and a large selector switch on the left side of the frame. C96 Mausers were originally chambered in 7.63x25, a very hot .30 caliber round which left the muzzle at around 1400 fps! Later on they were chambered in 9mm parbellum and had a large, red "9" carved into the stocks. The fixed magazine loads thru the ejection port on top with 10 rd. stripper clips. I'm fortunate enough to be the owner of a nice 1916 C96 with the original holster and shoulder stock. They are fun to shoot, but as you mentioned, the vertical grip and the odd position of the magazine make for a strange handling pistol. I'm stumped...it could possibly be a prototype, or a custom build.
Put a scope and a big-ass muzzle break on there and pretend you're Han Solo, laying pipe to a young Carrie Fisher.
And same story, there are several historic firearms that I've lusted after. Then, after actually holding one (usually a repro), I'd change my mind. Something about them - balance, fit and finish, size, whatever just didn't feel right in the hand.
I was at a house looking at a carpentry job and saw one of these , complete like your picture hanging on the wall! He said his dad liked collecting.first time I’ve ever seen one in person
ReplyDeleteI would LOVE to handle one, Mr. T. I think they originally came in 9mm and some oddball bottle necked calibre?
DeleteOff topic but sorta related ... I was hellbent on one day owning a Sharps rifle. I loved the lines, the legends and mystique, and the day I saw one - I was going to buy it. Even the repros were tough to get back in the day.
One day I finally laid hands on one... and HATED it. It didn't fit me at all, hung in my hands like a piece of turd and the balance was just all wrong for me. I ended up buying a Rem Rolling Block and never looked back.
I kinda think it is the same with these pistols, maybe? The lines and legends make for a sweet looking period piece... but the balance and ergonomics on it look iffy to me.
But who knows? Winston Churchill, who often found himself deep in the brown stuff as a military man early in his career - swore by them...
Every time I see one of these, the first thing that comes to mind
ReplyDeleteis the Clint Eastwood movie "Joe Kidd"
- WDS
The broom handle needs the stock/holster attached to properly balance. A family member had a artillery Luger bring back with stock and holster. It had great handling and was quite accurate.
ReplyDeleteUgly assed pistol but 9mm... better than nuthin'.
ReplyDeleteI've handled them, they SUCK, until you put a non holster (board) stock on it. Then, it's ALL THAT and a bag of chips. Having a 7 or 8" barrel would certainly help performance a bit.
ReplyDeleteThe Luger and the broom handle both started life as 7.65 Parabellum.
Phtttt! Only suitable for shooting Mauses
ReplyDeleteThere is something weird about this pic. It appears to be a model 712 "Schnellfeuer", which was select fire, however, there are a few things wrong.
ReplyDeleteThe frame is missing all of the machining work that is typical of all broomhandle Mausers. If this was a real 712 it would have a 20rd. detachable magazine, and a large selector switch on the left side of the frame.
C96 Mausers were originally chambered in 7.63x25, a very hot .30 caliber round which left the muzzle at around 1400 fps! Later on they were chambered in 9mm parbellum and had a large, red "9" carved into the stocks. The fixed magazine loads thru the ejection port on top with 10 rd. stripper clips.
I'm fortunate enough to be the owner of a nice 1916 C96 with the original holster and shoulder stock. They are fun to shoot, but as you mentioned, the vertical grip and the odd position of the magazine make for a strange handling pistol.
I'm stumped...it could possibly be a prototype, or a custom build.
Spain, China and others made licensed and unlicensed copies for decades.
DeleteYeah it looks odd to me too now that you mention it, A.
DeleteAirsoft, maybe…?
Put a scope and a big-ass muzzle break on there and pretend you're Han Solo, laying pipe to a young Carrie Fisher.
ReplyDeleteAnd same story, there are several historic firearms that I've lusted after. Then, after actually holding one (usually a repro), I'd change my mind. Something about them - balance, fit and finish, size, whatever just didn't feel right in the hand.